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be careful what you roll [03 Sep 2009|12:53pm]

chainsawsean
I just found out about this really scary virus. I know a lot of people on here probably smoke, so I thought I would share this with you guys.



Sanford is my number one fear right now!
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Electronic Cigarettes a Hot Trend [16 Apr 2009|11:12am]

teir_garten
x-posted

http://www.projo.com/news/content/E_Cigarettes_04-15-09_UAE0J6L_v14.273682d.html

PROVIDENCE — The last time Frank Meglio smoked a cigarette he had to plug it in and charge it. Then the 38-year-old Providence man inhaled through the white plastic cigarette-like tube, which activated a little lithium battery inside that produced a flame-like light, a smoke-like vapor and a nicotine hit.

Smoking’s gone high-tech.

Electronic cigarettes, or “e cigs” as they’re often called, have been in existence about a decade. But only recently, as tobacco cigarette prices soar, have they gained popularity, and controversy.

These products are being promoted as offering smokers the nicotine they want without the cancer-causing chemicals they don’t want. Since there’s no odor and no real smoke (just propylene glycol used in theatrical fog) or flame (just a tiny light at the tip for effect), they can be used indoors. They come in different flavors and four levels of nicotine dosages.

“Most people use it as a healthier way to smoke,” said Edwin Schwab, who works on the second floor of Providence Place at the kiosk of Smoking Everywhere, a U.S. distributor of e cigs. “It sounds absurd but it’s really true.”

What may make e cigs more appealing now than before is the recent rise in the price of cigarettes. Last week, Rhode Island raised its excise tax on cigarettes to $3.46 per pack, the highest in the country. And the federal excise tax rose from 39 cents per pack to $1.01. So a typical pack of smokes in the state now costs $8.35.

Compare that with a pack of e cigs: $2. Since they’re not cigarettes, they’re not taxed as cigarettes. They contain the drug nicotine, but aren’t regulated by the Food and Drug Administration –– at least not yet.

The FDA reports that it is “looking into this.” And it is getting encouragement to look thoroughly and decisively. Two months ago David Gifford, the state’s health director, wrote the FDA asking it to regulate e cigs because of their nicotine content.

“We don’t support e cigarettes,” said Annemarie Beardsworth, spokeswoman for the Rhode Island Department of Health. “Nicotine is an addictive substance.”

Any product promoting withdrawal from nicotine, she maintained , should be FDA-approved. “E cigarettes are not a regulated product. There is no identification required to purchase them. With tobacco you need to be 18.”

E cigarettes sold by Smoking Everywhere, a Florida-based company, come in various flavors: apple, cherry, strawberry and chocolate, among others.

A Smoking Everywhere starter kit, which comes with a charger and five tips, with each tip the equivalent of a pack of cigarettes, costs $130. Replacement packs of five tips cost $10.

Meglio used to smoke tobacco cigarettes, a pack a day, until Jan 1. On Jan. 2 he bought a Smoking Everywhere starter kit. He hasn’t smoked a real cigarette since. And previously he had tried other products to try to stop smoking. But nothing worked for long.

“I tried the gum and ended up with hiccups and it tastes really gross. With the patch, you’re getting nicotine all day. With this, I get what I need when I want it.”

Since January, Meglio has reduced the number of times a day he uses his e cig, and reduced the nicotine dosage of his e cigs. The question is: Has he has traded one form of nicotine addiction (cigarettes) for another (e cigarettes)?

“If I don’t quit, I’m still better off than smoking,” he maintains.

Schwab, 28, who smoked for roughly a decade, stopped when he began using e cigarettes, which he now sells.

“I believed in the product so much that I wanted to work for the company,” Schwab said.

It has been four months since Schwab smoked a tobacco cigarette. A friend had given him an e cig starter kit, which he ignored for a month, until one cold and snowy night he was going out with friends and didn’t feel like smoking outside. So he gave e cigs a try.

“It seemed bizarre and gimmicky. I just thought it wouldn’t work.”

Now it’s been a month since Schwab has had an e cig, which he attributes to changing his life.

“I realized smoking was slowly taking over my life. I was up to two packs a day. I was always in my basement or outside smoking. My car stunk. My clothes stunk. I couldn’t believe I was spending all this money to make my things stink.”

The Smoking Everywhere e cigarettes are sold at mall kiosks around the country. Steve Bayonne of Providence owns the one in Providence, which has been in operation for a few months.

“Once every 10 years there is a really good product that hits the market,” Bayonne said. “I heard about this last year and decided to move forward.”

Bayonne is not a smoker; he’s a businessman. Before becoming a Smoking Everywhere distributor, he gave the product to his friends who smoked.

“They all felt better on the product instantly.”

Bayonne said e cigs are “an alternative to smoking, not a smoking cessation product.” But the problem is one of perception. E cigs are offered in nicotine dosages of high, medium, low and none. The obvious inference is it can be used as a smoking-cessation product, and smoking-cessation products must be regulated by the FDA; this is not.

More needs to be known about e cigarettes, according to Jim Beardsworth, communications director for the Warwick-based Southern New England Region of the American Cancer Society.

“There is not a lot of data out there. There have not been clinical trials on this product. I do think it’s something that deserves tremendous caution.”


What does everyone think about these?

If you smoke: Would you consider switching to e-cigarettes as an alternative means of supporting a nicotine addiction? Would you consider yourself 'better off' than smoking a cigarette because e-cigarettes are, in theory, not cancer-causing? Would you consider switching to electronic cigarettes as a viable means to quit smoking?

If you do not smoke: Do you think that smokers who choose to switch to an electronic cigarette are making a wiser choice for their long-term health? Do you consider that the absence of tobacco in electronic cigarettes makes them 'healthier' than classic tobacco cigarettes?

Whether or not you smoke: Do you believe that this product should be regulated by the FDA? Do you believe that this product should be taxed as a cigarette, or a different drug altogether, or not at all? Do you consider this product a positive or negative influence on younger people or potential future-smokers?
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Just Joined [25 Oct 2008|06:48am]

psychotikbitch
[ mood | curious ]

Hey guys. I just joined in hopes maybe someone can answer a question for me. I have been looking everywhere and can not get an answer. Anyone that can help would be my hero!!!

A few years back at a flea market I got this awesome rolling machine. It was clear with colored gears inside. I use to joke that it looked like a kids "My-first-rolling-machine", as it looks so childish as though maybe designed by fisher-price. haha. Nonetheless, it disappeared, and as pathetic as it sounds I am heartbroken. In my opinion it worked fantastic for how cheesy it looked, and I really miss it. I would love to find one again. If anyone has any information on who made this, where i could find it, anything...it would be so helpful...and I will owe you forever! Search engines have turned up nothing for me...

On that note, is anyone familiar with a rolling machine called the "Smoky Mac" put out by Privileg? This is the only thing I have turned up on google that sounds like it might be it. It was posted in a forum as being a clear machine with colored gears, but I can not find anything on it. I believe the company is out of the US. If anyone can find a pic of this or any info on it either, so I can see if it is the same one, would be very helpful.

Thank you so much guys!!!

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Growing Tobacco. [17 Jul 2008|08:17pm]

mind_eclipse
Anyone here  grown their own tobacco? Is it different than store bought cigarettes? I've read that they starve the plants of nitrogen and use apartate, also that in America they use additives like licorice. I would like to make my own without additives and see if there's a difference.
I may not even smoke them, just for the experience. And any advice on how to grow them?
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selling cigarettes [27 Apr 2007|12:35pm]

lostinthemist
i recently quit smoking and i need to get rid of some cigarettes.. 1 carton marlboro ultra lights 100s, 1 carton + 3 packs marlboro ultra lights. Asking only $40 or best/soonest offer. I would do this on ebay if it was allowed!! Please comment ASAP if you are interested!!
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[22 Apr 2007|11:00am]

mind_eclipse
[ mood | aggravated ]

Hey, im new to the community. im interested in smoking because it seems to help me spiritualy and physically...i dont know why but the nicotine seems to have a good effect on me. im interested in the different methods of smoking, i have never bought myself cigarettes before...does anyone have any recommendations for a good cigarette. i have to stick with marlbaro lights and american spirits...which are ok but i dont like them that much...
the thing is i find the only reason i smoke is for the nicotine which really stimulates me, but i love the gum...im kind of nervouse to buy my own, but can you smoke tea? like green tea? how would i do that? thanks.

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Looking for a specific cigarette [15 Feb 2007|04:50am]

tornphotos
[ mood | blah ]

My friend was telling me about a certain cigarette brand that is really smooth.
I remember the box I think, it has like a wind surfer guy on the cover and usually comes in black and not the same shape as the usual box of camels or marlboro's.
Anyway, he said they were called America or American somethings, and don't come with all the chemicals that the usual cigarette comes with.I guess more natural?
Also I've only seen them at this one snack goods store before, I don't usually like to go there so I try to avoid it if at all possible.

BTW, I joined at 4:50AM eastern, if there are any rules about posting before you've been approved or anything then I apologize.

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n00b [04 Jan 2006|08:39am]

le_fei
hey...

chain smoker from Atlanta and i'm new to the community...

these are pre boxed filtered...

but i roll my own (Blackberry and Mapel papers are my favorites..mmm...)

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Introduction and a few questions [03 Jan 2006|09:45pm]

doingtheunstuck
Hi. I'm new. My primary smokes in the past have always been cloves. Djarum Blacks and a couple Sampoerna varieties have always been my favorite smokes. However, while still in the states, without a job and with the fact that mail order was not an option at that time, they were just too expensive. Thus, I got the idea of trying to roll my own. I took whole cloves, grinded them up a lot and mixed that in with the tobaccos I could find in my hometown (which weren't many). After a lot of experimenting, I ended up with something worth smoking. It wasn't a Djarum, but it wasn't bad. Once I reached that point, I was using a little Top rolling device with some variety of Zig-Zag papers that were easy to find and Midnight Special tobacco. On the clove front, I aimed for about 40% clove, trying to make it as even as I could throughout the cigarette. One thing I discovered was that I needed to NOT grind the cloves up too much. If you grinded them up too much, they tended to kind of sag down in the cigarette to the bottom (think of the cigarette as horizontal) and then the cigarette would run, just burning the tobacco along the top. I also used these little Top brand filters after a while and found that I preferred my rollie cloves a lot more filtered. The Midnight Special tobacco was alright... In my opinion, better than the mediocre Top stuff (and those were pretty much the only two that the local tobacco shop carried) and plus, I rarely paid for that kind either. I had a few friends who found themselves using a certain five fingered discount on the Midnight Special and given that they didn't pay for it, I always convinced them to give me large quantities of the stuff.

Anyway, then I ran into a little bit more money and started just smoking Djarum Blacks again. However, soon after, I immigrated to Vancouver, BC. Up here, my familiar Blacks have a tendancy to run about 15 dollars a pack, which is not a price I am willing to pay (given that I can get a 325ml of vodka for a little less :D). I thought I was just going to have to drop smoking, but then the idea of rolling my own came to mind again. After putting a few weeks of thought into it, I actually really love the idea of making my own cigarettes. I tend to come from somewhat of a punk background where a DIY ethic was pushed pretty hard, so this almost seems like the natural path for me to follow.

So, here's the deal: What tobacco is good up in Canada? And the cheaper the better. I have no credit card, so ordering from online isn't possible with most places and the few that do straight mail order never seem to be willing to ship up to Canada. Thus, I'm primarily looking into tobacco I can find locally.

Also, well... I am not exactly a talented person at hand-rolling. Typing, playing guitar and video games are about the only dextrous activities I partake in with my hands. I did, however, have decent luck with that little rolling machine. I've also seen a lot of people pushing injectors, which look nice, especially given my tendancy to prefer filtered cigarettes. However, I'm a n00b and don't totally understand injectors and am not sure how well they'd work with my clove blends. Educate me :D Essentially, in the opinion of people who are much more experienced, how good are those little rollers with the two cylinders (like what I've used in the past)? And with injectors, would they even work? And if so, would they be preferable?

If I end up going the route of handrolling/rolling machine, what papers are good & easy to find? And what seperates those from other papers? And if injectors are the way to go, what is good/easy to find in the way of tubes?

K, only one more question right now, I think: Anyone here ever tried their luck at rolling clove cigarettes? If so, any tips?

Thanks :D
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Hey. [24 Dec 2005|02:08pm]
xangledxedgex
[ mood | sick ]

Hey, new to the community. Recently quit smoking, but I'll be damned if I'll ever quit rolling. Every so often, my friends buy rolling tobacco, and I'll bother them to let me roll cigarettes for them (and I'll be damned if I don't roll better than them). I loved Bali Shag Halfzware, though I usually went for the $2 Bugler. For those of you that don't stick to only smoking tobacco, I am a hit at parties for my joints (which are a lot harder to roll than cigarettes, let me tell you, and I'd be glad to share some secrets for rolling a joint that doesn't run, burns well, has good airflow, etc.).

Well, I suppose that's all I have for now.

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[17 Sep 2005|04:05pm]

brewtality1919
[ mood | content ]

Just bought a can of Bali Shag Light Halfzware that someone in the community recomended. It's great. Smooth, with a nice flavor, without being harsh like a lot of the tobacco I've been buying. Peace.

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Smoke if you got em' (and I'm sure you do). [05 Sep 2005|12:06am]

brewtality1919
[ mood | drained ]

Whats goin on. My name is Craig from Flint, MI. I use tubes, mainly because I can't roll for shit. I'm not too particular about brands, but I tend to stick to Top or Bugler (cause it's cheap). Actually, I want to quit, and I have cut way back because I only make so many for myself a day. I'm curious to find out about some cheap, but good tobacco. Any suggestions are much appreciated. Thanx.

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[26 Jul 2005|11:00pm]

syndrometer
Brands like American Spirit, Nat Sherman, and Djarum are considered 'class A' cigarettes. Since they're the more expensive brands, I'm assuming 'class A' indicates high quality. Is there a hierarchy of different classes of cigarettes, or is class A just an informal way of flaunting your high quality?
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[29 Jun 2005|06:03pm]

_inxthexflesh_


Enjoy!

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[01 Jun 2005|03:11pm]

_inxthexflesh_
Hello, yes I'm new here but hey I certainly know what I'm talking about.
I just thought I'd ask everyone a few questions about their favourites:

1. What brand of rolling papers do you use and why?
2. Do you use filters? Which? Why not?
3. Do you actually roll your tobacco by hand or are you a machinist?
4. What's your favourite tobacco/(substance?) to smoke and why?

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Woo some semi-stupid n00b questions! [31 May 2005|12:23pm]
__ohsaysaysay
[ mood | indescribable ]

First of all, heeeeello. Sorry for anything that I've called incorrectly (like if 'rolling papers' is not the right word, etc.) and crap typing quality.

So I've been considering rolling my own cigarettes sometime (hence why I'm in here =P). I know some people who I can get the papers from, so today I asked one of them myself and had another (non-smoker) friend ask the other.

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So all of that thorougly confused me.
So I have questions.
That are probably dumb.
But you have to start somewhere right?
Yes.

ANYWAY.

1. What are they called? Filters or rolling papers? Or is there some other name all together? I want the name of the papers that you roll your own cigarettes with. The kinds that aren't already in a tube-shape. The kinds that are flat and have the little licky-bit at the one side so you seal it like an envelope once you've rolled it.
2. What in god's name is Morgan talking about when she says 'you don't use rolling papers'? I mean I could use a bong yeah, but I want something that I can take with me anywhere so if I want one I can have on there instead of waiting to come home and huddling up in my room with a bong (which I don't have).
3. Why does no one know that you can smoke herbs?
4. What the hell does Kate mean, 'you need a machine to roll them'? You can roll them by hand, can't you? If not then I have been reading websites all wrong. But they all say that you can use your hands to roll them.

Eeee sorry for the extreme boring-ness of this, I just didn't know where else to ask all this =/

Thanksssss ^.^

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I too have a survey =X Please Help me out :) [15 Apr 2005|12:58am]

al0ha
I'm doing a survey for my math class on smoking, If you smoke and could answer these few questions it would be VERY helpful.

THank you!

1.)Age:
2.)Gender:
3.)Race:
4.)Age you began smoking:
5.)Age you smoked your first cigarette:
6.)Did your parents smoke?:
7.)What influenced your your decisiion to smoke?:
8.)About how many cigarettes do you smoke a day?
9.)About how much money do you spend on cigarettes during the week?
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Bored? Take this quick survey! [04 Apr 2005|08:01pm]

fiftiesmisfit
Hey, i need some help from you guys if you dont mind.
If you are a smoker and have friends who smoke please take a few seconds to fill out this quick survey for one of my classes, any help would be greatly appreciated, thanx =). (If this isnt allowed you can delete this entry)

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[11 Mar 2005|01:16pm]

syndrometer
This isn't about making one's own cigarettes, but can anyone here tell me which cigarette companies sell all-natural tobacco? Something that isn't tainted with pesticides and crap.
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Second Review Forthcoming [11 Mar 2005|01:17pm]

realitydeviant
[ mood | impressed ]

I've only been able to sample about half of what I received, but I'm even more impressed this time around. I must say, I'm going to immediately rate D&R's TwoTimer as a "must try" blend. I don't like burley normally, but I like this. It's a bit on the strong side, but not too strong (like the Cockstrong is). It's nice, warm and toasty, and sweet on the exhale. Exceptional.

Also worth noting is that blending Ramback and Penhooker seems to take advantage of the merits of both. I will have to find the right proportions to blend it in, however. More to follow on that.

I will post my review after this weekend, once I've gotten a chance to really taste everything else.

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